{"id":8691,"date":"2018-05-05T11:25:46","date_gmt":"2018-05-05T09:25:46","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.smolio.ch\/wissen\/every-little-helps-what-a-difference-a-small-fee-makes\/"},"modified":"2025-03-16T14:56:53","modified_gmt":"2025-03-16T13:56:53","slug":"every-little-helps-what-a-difference-a-small-fee-makes","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.smolio.ch\/en\/wissen\/every-little-helps-what-a-difference-a-small-fee-makes\/","title":{"rendered":"Every little helps. What a difference a small fee makes"},"content":{"rendered":"<span class=\"span-reading-time rt-reading-time\" style=\"display: block;\"><span class=\"rt-label rt-prefix\">Lesedauer<\/span> <span class=\"rt-time\"> 2<\/span> <span class=\"rt-label rt-postfix\">Minuten<\/span><\/span>\n<div class=\"wp-block-stackable-text stk-block-text stk-block stk-332df46\" data-block-id=\"332df46\"><p class=\"stk-block-text__text\">When investing, some people are completely put off by the fees &#8211; you have to recoup them first. Others don&#8217;t pay attention and then pay the bill. In fact, a small difference in fees makes a big difference.    <span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">We compare active and passive investment products and do the math.  <\/span><\/p><\/div>\n\n<!--more-->\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-stackable-text stk-block-text stk-block stk-e3b1857\" data-block-id=\"e3b1857\"><p class=\"stk-block-text__text\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Reto is 34 years old and has an investment horizon of 31 years until retirement. His long-term investment horizon allows him to build up his 3rd pillar pension provision with equity funds. <strong>What is the difference in fees between active and passive funds in Swiss francs? <\/strong>  <\/span><\/p><\/div>\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-stackable-text stk-block-text stk-block stk-e40bef1\" data-block-id=\"e40bef1\"><p class=\"stk-block-text__text\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">To do this, Reto first looks at two different pension funds. He compares a <a href=\"https:\/\/www.smolio.ch\/de\/wissen\/detail\/passive-3-saule-fonds-wieso-mehr-bezahlen\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">passive and an active 3a investment fund<\/a>, each with an equity allocation of 75 %. Because the products do not only invest in equities, he reduces the expected return to 5 %. Reto pays in the annual savings installment at the beginning of the year, because he has learned that he <a href=\"https:\/\/www.smolio.ch\/en\/wissen\/pillar-3a-at-the-beginning-of-the-year-the-early-bird-gets-more\/\">is better<\/a> off doing so. Unfortunately, Reto also has to pay an issue commission of 2.5 % for the passive pension product and therefore includes this in his calculations.      <\/span><\/p><\/div>\n\n<h5 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"h-auswirkung-unterschiedlicher-gebuhren-aktiver-und-passiver-produkte-vorsorge-3a\">Impact of different fees for active and passive pension products 3a<\/h5>\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-table table table-striped\" data-block-type=\"core\"><table class=\"has-fixed-layout\"><thead><tr><th><b>Example 1 &#8211; Investment in tied pension provision<\/b><\/th><th><b>active 3a product<\/b><\/th><th><b>passive 3a product<\/b><\/th><\/tr><\/thead><tbody><tr><td>Investment amount p.a.<\/td><td>6,768 francs<\/td><td>6,768 francs<\/td><\/tr><tr><td>Yield p.a.<\/td><td>5.0 %<\/td><td>5,0 %<\/td><\/tr><tr><td>One-off investment costs<\/td><td>2.5 %<\/td><td>2.5 %<\/td><\/tr><tr><td>Fees p.a.<\/td><td>1.83 %<\/td><td>0.38 %<\/td><\/tr><tr><td>Investment period<\/td><td>31 years<\/td><td>31 years<\/td><\/tr><tr><td>3a assets at 65<\/td><td>around 350,300 francs<\/td><td>around 456,600 francs<\/td><\/tr><\/tbody><\/table><\/figure>\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-stackable-text stk-block-text stk-block stk-cec236c\" data-block-id=\"cec236c\"><p class=\"stk-block-text__text\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">The fee difference of 1.45 % has a fairly large impact over the long term: <\/span><b>with the cheaper product, you end up with around 106,300 francs or 30 % more.<\/b> <b>Reto rubs his eyes<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> and wonders what this means for his fund in free assets.<\/span><\/p><\/div>\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-stackable-text stk-block-text stk-block stk-2160d17\" data-block-id=\"2160d17\"><p class=\"stk-block-text__text\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">A year ago, Reto also bought into an active, global investment fund with an excellent Morningstar rating that has been on the market for over 10 years. For this fund, 1.8 % management costs are deducted from his fund assets each year. This is in the mid-range of the usual management costs of 1.5 to 2.1 % per year. As an alternative, he now looks at an <a href=\"https:\/\/www.smolio.ch\/de\/wissen\/detail\/so-gehts-in-etfs-investieren\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">ETF<\/a> on the MSCI World, a benchmark index for global equity investments. These have management costs of 0.15 % to 0.65 %. Reto chooses the cheapest product for the comparison. As he now invests 100 % in equities, he calculates with the average annual return of the MSCI World over the last few decades. For the ETF, he only includes the purchase fee on the stock exchange because, unlike with the fund, he does not have to pay an issuing commission.       <\/span><\/p><\/div>\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-stackable-columns stk-block-columns stk-block stk-3112f5f stk-block-background callout\" data-block-id=\"3112f5f\" data-block-type=\"core\" data-block-type=\"core\"><style>.stk-3112f5f{background-color:#02b875 !important;margin-bottom:40px !important}.stk-3112f5f:before{background-color:#02b875 !important}<\/style><div class=\"stk-row stk-inner-blocks stk-block-content stk-content-align stk-3112f5f-column\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-stackable-column stk-block-column stk-column stk-block stk-4a4cbd5\" data-v=\"4\" data-block-id=\"4a4cbd5\"><div class=\"stk-column-wrapper stk-block-column__content stk-container stk-4a4cbd5-container stk--no-background stk--no-padding\"><div class=\"stk-block-content stk-inner-blocks stk-4a4cbd5-inner-blocks\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-stackable-image stk-block-image stk-block stk-fe9674b\" data-block-id=\"fe9674b\"><figure><span class=\"stk-img-wrapper stk-image--shape-stretch\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"stk-img wp-image-6627\" src=\"https:\/\/smolio-storage.s3.eu-central-1.amazonaws.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/11\/06183134\/Produktfinder-PC-3-Anbieter-with-BG.png\" width=\"1200\" height=\"800\" alt=\"Smolio pension check shows income in retirement with Pensions 2020\" title=\"\" srcset=\"https:\/\/smolio-storage.s3.eu-central-1.amazonaws.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/11\/06183134\/Produktfinder-PC-3-Anbieter-with-BG.png 1200w, https:\/\/smolio-storage.s3.eu-central-1.amazonaws.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/11\/06183134\/Produktfinder-PC-3-Anbieter-with-BG-800x533.png 800w, https:\/\/smolio-storage.s3.eu-central-1.amazonaws.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/11\/06183134\/Produktfinder-PC-3-Anbieter-with-BG-315x210.png 315w, https:\/\/smolio-storage.s3.eu-central-1.amazonaws.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/11\/06183134\/Produktfinder-PC-3-Anbieter-with-BG-768x512.png 768w, https:\/\/smolio-storage.s3.eu-central-1.amazonaws.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/11\/06183134\/Produktfinder-PC-3-Anbieter-with-BG-360x240.png 360w, https:\/\/smolio-storage.s3.eu-central-1.amazonaws.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/11\/06183134\/Produktfinder-PC-3-Anbieter-with-BG-400x267.png 400w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1200px) 100vw, 1200px\" \/><\/span><\/figure><\/div>\n<\/div><\/div><\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-stackable-column stk-block-column stk-column stk-block stk-4891e88\" data-v=\"4\" data-block-id=\"4891e88\"><div class=\"stk-column-wrapper stk-block-column__content stk-container stk-4891e88-container stk--no-background stk--no-padding\"><div class=\"stk-block-content stk-inner-blocks stk-4891e88-inner-blocks\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-stackable-heading stk-block-heading stk-block-heading--v2 stk-block stk-addbbcb\" id=\"finde-die-beste-saule-3-a\" data-block-id=\"addbbcb\"><style>.stk-addbbcb .stk-block-heading__text{color:#ffffff !important}<\/style><h3 class=\"stk-block-heading__text has-text-color has-text-align-center\">Find the best pillar 3a<\/h3><\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-stackable-text stk-block-text stk-block stk-c2849cd\" data-block-id=\"c2849cd\"><style>.stk-c2849cd .stk-block-text__text{color:#ffffff !important}<\/style><p class=\"stk-block-text__text has-text-color\">Unbelievable &#8211; most people pay too much for their pillar 3a and get too little return.\nAre you one of them?\nFind out which pillar 3a is best suited to you with just a few clicks in our free comparison.    <\/p><\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-stackable-button-group stk-block-button-group stk-block stk-38be4a0\" data-block-id=\"38be4a0\"><div class=\"stk-row stk-inner-blocks has-text-align-center stk-block-content stk-button-group\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-stackable-button stk-block-button has-text-align-center stk-block stk-1f879d2\" data-block-id=\"1f879d2\"><style>.stk-1f879d2 .stk-button{background:#192483 !important;border-top-left-radius:30px !important;border-top-right-radius:30px !important;border-bottom-right-radius:30px !important;border-bottom-left-radius:30px !important}<\/style><a class=\"stk-link stk-button stk--hover-effect-darken\" href=\"https:\/\/finder.smolio.ch\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><span class=\"stk-button__inner-text\">Find the best pillar 3a<\/span><\/a><\/div>\n<\/div><\/div>\n<\/div><\/div><\/div>\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n<h5 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"h-auswirkung-unterschiedlicher-gebuhren-aktiver-und-passiver-produkte-vorsorge-3b\">Impact of different fees for active and passive products Pension provision 3b<\/h5>\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-table table table-striped\" data-block-type=\"core\"><table class=\"has-fixed-layout\"><thead><tr><th><b>Example 2 &#8211; Investment in free pension provision<\/b><\/th><th><b>active product<\/b><\/th><th><b>passive product<\/b><\/th><\/tr><\/thead><tbody><tr><td>Investment amount p. a.<\/td><td>6,768 francs<\/td><td>6,768 francs<\/td><\/tr><tr><td>One-off investment costs<\/td><td>5 % issuing commission<\/td><td>25 francs purchase fee<\/td><\/tr><tr><td>Yield p. a.<\/td><td>6.7 %<\/td><td>6.7 %<\/td><\/tr><tr><td>Fees p. a.<\/td><td>1.8 %<\/td><td>0.15 %<\/td><\/tr><tr><td>Investment period<\/td><td>31 years<\/td><td>31 years<\/td><\/tr><tr><td>3a assets at 65<\/td><td>around 468,800 francs<\/td><td>around 676,300 francs<\/td><\/tr><\/tbody><\/table><\/figure>\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-stackable-text stk-block-text stk-block stk-9d5fbf0\" data-block-id=\"9d5fbf0\"><p class=\"stk-block-text__text\"><b>The differences in fees have an even greater impact here<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">because there is no issuing commission for ETFs and the difference in the annual management fee of 1.65 % is even higher than for pension funds.<\/span><b>  With the passive product, Reto has 205,500 francs more in his pocket. That&#8217;s almost twice as much (44% more)   <\/b>than <span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">with the active product. <strong>Every little helps a lot!<\/strong><\/span><\/p><\/div>\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-stackable-columns stk-block-columns stk-block stk-5oj5cx9 stk-block-background callout\" data-block-id=\"5oj5cx9\" data-block-type=\"core\" data-block-type=\"core\"><style>.stk-5oj5cx9{background-color:#02b875 !important;margin-bottom:40px !important}.stk-5oj5cx9:before{background-color:#02b875 !important}<\/style><div class=\"stk-row stk-inner-blocks stk-block-content stk-content-align stk-5oj5cx9-column\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-stackable-column stk-block-column stk-column stk-block stk-tg19i6b\" data-v=\"4\" data-block-id=\"tg19i6b\"><div class=\"stk-column-wrapper stk-block-column__content stk-container stk-tg19i6b-container stk--no-background stk--no-padding\"><div class=\"stk-block-content stk-inner-blocks stk-tg19i6b-inner-blocks\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-stackable-image stk-block-image stk-block stk-si1htdy\" data-block-id=\"si1htdy\"><figure><span class=\"stk-img-wrapper stk-image--shape-stretch\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"stk-img wp-image-827\" src=\"https:\/\/www.smolio.ch\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/08\/Vorsorgecheck-live_Einkommensu&#x308;bersicht-niedergelassene_Smolio-Wissen.png\" width=\"800\" height=\"566\" alt=\"Smolio pension check shows income in retirement with Pensions 2020\" title=\"\"><\/span><\/figure><\/div>\n<\/div><\/div><\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-stackable-column stk-block-column stk-column stk-block stk-bppns06\" data-v=\"4\" data-block-id=\"bppns06\"><div class=\"stk-column-wrapper stk-block-column__content stk-container stk-bppns06-container stk--no-background stk--no-padding\"><div class=\"stk-block-content stk-inner-blocks stk-bppns06-inner-blocks\"><p data-block-type=\"core\"><div class=\"mautic-slot\" data-slot-name=\"c2a-blog-finanzdashboard\"><\/p>\n<h3>Mach den ersten Schritt zur finanziellen Unabh\u00e4ngigkeit<\/h3>\n<p> In einer Minute siehst du deine Verm\u00f6gensentwicklung und dein Einkommen w\u00e4hrend der Rente. <\/p>\n<p> <a href=\"https:\/\/cockpit.smolio.ch\/de\/vorsorgecheck\/start\/1\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Rentenrechner starten<\/a> <\/p>\n<p><\/div><\/p>\n<\/div><\/div><\/div>\n<\/div><\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>When investing, some people are put off by the fees &#8211; you have to recoup them first. 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In fact, a small difference in fees makes a big difference. Discover how worthwhile it is for you to take a closer look.  <\/p>\n","category_list_v2":"<a href=\"https:\/\/www.smolio.ch\/en\/finanzthemen\/optimize-finances\/\" rel=\"category tag\">Optimize finances<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.smolio.ch\/en\/finanzthemen\/build-investment-portfolio\/\" rel=\"category tag\">Build investment portfolio<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.smolio.ch\/en\/finanzthemen\/understanding-the-swiss-pension-system\/invest-in-pillar-3a\/finpension-reviews-en\/\" rel=\"category tag\">finpension Reviews<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.smolio.ch\/en\/finanzthemen\/understanding-the-swiss-pension-system\/invest-in-pillar-3a\/frankly-reviews-en\/\" rel=\"category tag\">frankly reviews<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.smolio.ch\/en\/finanzthemen\/understanding-the-swiss-pension-system\/invest-in-pillar-3a\/\" rel=\"category tag\">Invest in pillar 3a<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.smolio.ch\/en\/finanzthemen\/understanding-the-swiss-pension-system\/invest-in-pillar-3a\/viac-3a-en\/\" rel=\"category tag\">VIAC 3a<\/a>","author_info_v2":{"name":"Thomas Walke","url":"https:\/\/www.smolio.ch\/en\/author\/thomas\/"},"comments_num_v2":"0 comments","_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.smolio.ch\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/8691","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.smolio.ch\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.smolio.ch\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.smolio.ch\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/8"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.smolio.ch\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=8691"}],"version-history":[{"count":4,"href":"https:\/\/www.smolio.ch\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/8691\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":10158,"href":"https:\/\/www.smolio.ch\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/8691\/revisions\/10158"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.smolio.ch\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/4224"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.smolio.ch\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=8691"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.smolio.ch\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=8691"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.smolio.ch\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=8691"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}